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. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm constantly trying to figure this thing out. i thought it was much more pro-obama. he won a very solid victory and mandate. are they still stunned by that? >> yeah. in some respects, they are, to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high. >> stu stevens thinks that. we're all trying to figure that out. what happened here? >> i think there is a bit of that. and rahm himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened himself. i think he will be doing that for a while. i think he still thinks about this an awful lo
. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm...
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senators mccain and kerry have their day jobs to return to on capitol hill. in fact, kerry's name is now being floated for secretary of state replacing hillary clinton. vice president al gore made global warming his calling winning the 2007 nobel peace prize. gore also promoted sustainable investing and co-founded current tv. bob dole has been a special council at a top law firm but also took a leap into tv commercials touting the drug viagra. >> like erectile dysfunction, e.d. -- >> reporter: moving from the political life back to civilian life can be tricky. take mitt romney. he had around the clock secret service protection, a legion of followers, crowds of thousands chanting his name. and then nothing. former congressman mark kennedy, who now heads up george washington university's graduate school of political management offers this sage advice. >> i think what makes the difference is having a focus. you mentioned al gore, he focused on environmental issues. you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your mess
senators mccain and kerry have their day jobs to return to on capitol hill. in fact, kerry's name is now being floated for secretary of state replacing hillary clinton. vice president al gore made global warming his calling winning the 2007 nobel peace prize. gore also promoted sustainable investing and co-founded current tv. bob dole has been a special council at a top law firm but also took a leap into tv commercials touting the drug viagra. >> like erectile dysfunction, e.d. --...
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i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about moving a health care agenda forward after all obama care was built on the backs of romney care. if he can say something about the fiscal cliff, the president can gain some bipartisan credibility. it's also the right thing to do. the real tradition of this is started in 1960 with kennedy meeting nixon in florida, and since then it's pretty much pro forma. what is 50-50 is whether a friendship gets developed out of this kind of lunch. >> this is the kind of thing that we take for granted in the united states. you really have to think about it, when there is no peaceful transition. >> well, you know, i recently wrote about the kenned
i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about moving a health care agenda forward after all obama care...
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senator mccain went on to say this, i would love to hear him make necessary case. i don't have anything in thinks background like the tragedy in gaziano that would make me carefully examine the situation. >> it is doing susan rice. if kerry is the nominee he would have smooth sailing through. in washington these are friends behind the scenes. if susan rice is nominee we'll have partisan politics. we have the liberal mainstream media already bashing republicans, some calling them racists and sexist in the fact they won't support susan rise because the fact she is a black woman. it is not about race. it is about benghazi. she went on the air and she lied. now she is trying to backpedal and not helping her case at all. >> but what i will say, you had condoleezza rice, she was confirmed by the senate 85-13. and what democrats said, this is at a time where she was under a lot of scrutiny for the war, bringing us into a war we didn't feel we had reason to be there -- >> she didn't lie about anything, my dear. she didn't. >> let's be fair was susan rise did read a stateme
senator mccain went on to say this, i would love to hear him make necessary case. i don't have anything in thinks background like the tragedy in gaziano that would make me carefully examine the situation. >> it is doing susan rice. if kerry is the nominee he would have smooth sailing through. in washington these are friends behind the scenes. if susan rice is nominee we'll have partisan politics. we have the liberal mainstream media already bashing republicans, some calling them racists...
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mccain finished bottom fifth in his class. how does he get to call susan rice not smart? i think he owes the taxpayers for the plane he lost and the five he lost during training. yeah. >> yikes. >> stephanie: you know he's the one who said his nickname was mcnasty. it's because he's getting old and bitter? no he's always been mean and nasty. >> his nickname should have been crash. lost five planes in training and he brought on sarah palin. >> stephanie: there is that his version of fart. democratsered areled to fight for rights, and democratic senate aide said people are happy to fight for her. this is getting people's back up up. this is ridiculous. she's obviously qualified. karl frisch was saying before the break, susan rice, they're saying this is a blow. she's expressing some concerns that she's a moderate. that was not a stretch that she blamed her for the 1990 bombing embassy in kenya when she was in the clinton administration. she said she could not back a nomination until more questions were answered in bengahzi. >> i think she had something to do with the hinden
mccain finished bottom fifth in his class. how does he get to call susan rice not smart? i think he owes the taxpayers for the plane he lost and the five he lost during training. yeah. >> yikes. >> stephanie: you know he's the one who said his nickname was mcnasty. it's because he's getting old and bitter? no he's always been mean and nasty. >> his nickname should have been crash. lost five planes in training and he brought on sarah palin. >> stephanie: there is that his...
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there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both on election night and then at a press conference a week later he wanted to talk to mitt romney saying that he thought he had some good ideas saying that maybe his of his management experience running the salt lake city could be applied to streamlining the federal government. >> bill: i heard the president say that. i thought he was just sort of making nice, right? but then he for actually followed through and invited him to lunch. >> mitt romney got a lot of applause for the way he handled the salt lake city olympics. he turned a wretched enterprise into a success. >> bill: with
there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both...
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john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones
john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain...
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this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you can't get any more aggressive than that. >> some recent polling shows that where as americans don't like the way benghazi was handled, they don't think they were intentionally trying to mislead the people. they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financ
this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you...
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i thought the mccain convention put on a better convention four years. so the 47% was an oh s on the other hand. >> despite the fact you anticipated the polling results to continue in that direction any way, maybe it all happened at once, did you have to make any sharp readjustments or did you say at that moment don't worry about it it's okay, we're fine? >> we had to ensure we didn't have another first debate so that was mission number one although that was clear during the debate. >> the president knew that right? >> yeah there wasn't gazing about was it as bad as everybody thought. it was clear. we knew what twode do. we had to prepare for a romney that was elastic. more elastic than we envisioned. and debates are not the president's strength. he did well three years ago but didn't dominate. in that campaign we lost more than we won. you have certain events you're strong in. the decathlon say the high jump was not the one we were going to win, we just had to get enough point. we won the second debate and dominated the third debate. and the way voters
i thought the mccain convention put on a better convention four years. so the 47% was an oh s on the other hand. >> despite the fact you anticipated the polling results to continue in that direction any way, maybe it all happened at once, did you have to make any sharp readjustments or did you say at that moment don't worry about it it's okay, we're fine? >> we had to ensure we didn't have another first debate so that was mission number one although that was clear during the debate....
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ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration to
ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the...
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it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esuranc
it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john...
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just a day after iraqi session with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, she met with another republican senator, susan collins of maine. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of the contentious presidential election campaign, by agreeing to go on the sunday shows, to present the administration's position. >> this is what she is talking about, one of several appearances ambassador rice made five days after the consulate killings. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. what we think, then, transpired in benghazi is the extremist elements came to the consulate, as this was unfolding. >> notice the phrase "extremist elements." we since learned that ambassador rice was speaking to talking points, regarding jihadist groups, including a local al-qaeda affiliate. the intelligence community was said to have made the edit. michael morrell told senators the fbi was res
just a day after iraqi session with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, she met with another republican senator, susan collins of maine. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of the contentious presidential election campaign, by agreeing to go on the sunday shows, to present the administration's position. >> this is what she is talking about, one of several appearances...
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republicans stall worth john mccain and lindsey mccain have come out strongly against her citing the benghazi attacks and her remarks. today, moderate republican susan collins indicated that she might feelel similarimar lls and a r rublicann s sator bob corker had a 75 minute meeting with rice and afterward they still don't sound convinced. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there's a handful of people that the president surrounds himself with that all of us hold to a very different level, and the secretary of state no doubt is one of those. we want someone of independence. >> well, president obama and secretary clinton both rushed to her defense. >> i couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations and of course, this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> but they're not just going to have to convince props even some democrats were reluctant to overtly support her. jon tester said: >> joe manch
republicans stall worth john mccain and lindsey mccain have come out strongly against her citing the benghazi attacks and her remarks. today, moderate republican susan collins indicated that she might feelel similarimar lls and a r rublicann s sator bob corker had a 75 minute meeting with rice and afterward they still don't sound convinced. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there's a handful of people that the president surrounds himself with that all of us...
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following their face-to-face with rice yesterday republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham and kelly ayotte announced they were more troubled than ever. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign. >> eliot: but president obama stood up for rice today during his first post-election cabinet meeting when asked about the ambassador's reception on the hill. >> obama: sue an rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at the usun. >> joining me now is pj crowley who served under both presidents clinton and obama. he's now a professor at george washington university. thanks for your wisdom. >> hi, eliot. >> eliot: the reception that ambassador rice is getting on the hill is almost unprecedented unprecedented. i don't remember an u.s. diplomat being roughed up this way, is there a historical metaphor for this? >> not recently. i think in terms of the senate interfering, if you want to say that, you have to go back to john tower
following their face-to-face with rice yesterday republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham and kelly ayotte announced they were more troubled than ever. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign. >> eliot: but president obama stood up for rice today during his first post-election cabinet meeting when asked about the ambassador's...
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to be secretary of state or is the benghazi which brought about politics as usual was her panel what mccain and company are really up to in tonight's law and liberal rubble also even though arizona's restrictive abortion ban is blocked from taking effect officials now state are still trying to prevent women from getting abortions and we're going to see an end to the conservatives war on women. you need to know this once there were three amigos. but. they were the biggest stars of their day. soon. course free. to come back on the. block. always three amigos please three amigos. they stick together through thick and thin from the queensland to the holy land from the ball field to the battlefield they are senators joseph lieberman lindsey graham and john mccain they've been called everything from the three amigos the three blind mice and the axis of error by the website downsize d.c. dot org. those are the real three amigos big but because lieberman is leaving the senate the two of egos needed a new amigo and they chose one of the republican party's rising stars new hampshire senator senator k
to be secretary of state or is the benghazi which brought about politics as usual was her panel what mccain and company are really up to in tonight's law and liberal rubble also even though arizona's restrictive abortion ban is blocked from taking effect officials now state are still trying to prevent women from getting abortions and we're going to see an end to the conservatives war on women. you need to know this once there were three amigos. but. they were the biggest stars of their day....
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lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mea -- >> it doesn'go on. it does not go on. here's theood news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstaes with the same people who said that two years ago. and everyews dia outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and announced u areefor tax increases and we will tell everyone you are important and influential. they have had no takers, for crying out loud. all of the guys for two years have said we might raise taxes are still there. how do you think these centers like being called harry reads favor republican senators? not the way to get reelected. lou: i get that. the list does go on. he said today in articulating the idea that going with the obama plan was an interesting tactic. you must let the congressman a great deal because, as you know, the wite house has seized upon that. they're going to continue the assault. th
lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mea -- >> it doesn'go on. it does not go on. here's theood news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstaes with the same people who said that two years ago. and everyews dia outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and...
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the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration. china, same thing. and europe the same thing. immigration is our competitive advantage against the rest of the world as an economic power, a military power. >> so what other wounds would you look at? >> that's one piece. i think we need to look at -- and our candidates. we ran a candidate, romney, who was a great guy much he's not what the 86% of obama's ads said about him. but how do you make the case of how romney would govern when he was governor of massachusetts for four years, pre-tea party. >> let's stipulate romney was a bad candidate. how would you get a better
the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration....
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the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration. china, same thing. and europe the same thing. immigration is our competitive advantage against the rest of the world as an economic power, a military power. >> so what other wounds would you look at? >> that's one piece. i think we need to look at -- and our candidates. we ran a candidate, rahmny, who was a great guy much he's not what the 86% of obama's ads said about him. but how do you make the case of how rahmny would govern when he was governor of massachusetts for four years, pre-tea party. >> let's stipulate rahmny was a bad candidate. how would you get a better
the party that's supposed to be against immigration nominated john mccain. so it's not only been where the party actually has been electing people, it's where its policies are. if you want free market economics you want talent and youth coming to this country. if you're a national security conservative, why is the united states going to run the world or be very important and powerful in the world in 100 years and japan isn't? because one, they forget to have kids and they don't do immigration....
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john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raise
john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >>...
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they had that initial ferocious opposition by lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain, a big press conference and really took a stance. the administration decides to send her up to try to repair things. they come out of the meeting, she obviously didn't graduate from any washington charm school, because even kelly ayotte it looked like they had just lost their best friend after that meeting. they were not happy. then there is another round of meetings and cork eri corker is saying he should withdraw the nomination. megyn: he said she would make a better dnc chair, that is debbie wasserman schultz job. >> it seems like a classic obama set up of the republicans. this is a way to bring up the whole war on women, meaning that republicans really don't understand women, look they don't have any female chairmen of their committees on capitol hill. they didn't get any of the female vote, and they just don't get it. they are doing this to this poor woman, and she is a great person and a great public servant. to me it seems like there is a political reason for continuing to, you know,
they had that initial ferocious opposition by lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain, a big press conference and really took a stance. the administration decides to send her up to try to repair things. they come out of the meeting, she obviously didn't graduate from any washington charm school, because even kelly ayotte it looked like they had just lost their best friend after that meeting. they were not happy. then there is another round of meetings and cork eri corker is saying he...
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-- chairman levin and ranking member, distinguished republican senator, a dear friend as well, john mccain, and all the noves senate armed services committee make this a positive aspect and to the gentlelady from the district of columbia, i cannot help but say more. 6 humbings,000 u.s. citizens live in her district, they pay federal income taxes and yet she's denied the right to vote on the floor. it's unbecoming to democracy. mr. speaker, i thank you for your patience and yield back. ms. norton: mr. speaker, how much time remains? the speaker pro tempore: 30 seconds remain. ms. norton: we have heard movingly from my three colleagues, i hope the senate has been as moved as i was by hearing from them. i want only to say, mr. speaker, you've heard from all of us who are american citizens who represent american citizens and american sints who fight and have fought for their country, who were pleased and continue to volunteer in disproportionate numbers into the armed forces, who are among the less than 1% who carry all of us, who carry all of us on their shoulders. that's what the volunteer a
-- chairman levin and ranking member, distinguished republican senator, a dear friend as well, john mccain, and all the noves senate armed services committee make this a positive aspect and to the gentlelady from the district of columbia, i cannot help but say more. 6 humbings,000 u.s. citizens live in her district, they pay federal income taxes and yet she's denied the right to vote on the floor. it's unbecoming to democracy. mr. speaker, i thank you for your patience and yield back. ms....
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the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings that didn't seem to go so well, correct? kelly ayotte known as a particular fire brand but came out with very, very strong language and said she would put a hold on susan rice's nomination. >> look, two things were surprising here. number one, a visit like this when you're actually not the nominee to be secretary of state, is a little odd. we were talking with other reporters earlier and no one can really remember these types of diplomatic visits for someone not officially nominated. after the criticism of rice softened this past weekend a lot of us expected this would be a get nice pow wow. it turned out to
the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings...
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but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called her up there. >> no question about that. she's pushing these meetings, the one asking for these meetings. like i said, if this is auditioning to be our top diplomat, what that's what these meetings are about -- >> sometimes you go into meetings in diplomacy and you do come out aggressively because some foreign countries aren't our allies and aren't going to be. >> no question. >> as far as she can tell, john mccain doesn't seem like an alloy so it was a tough meeting. that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten
but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called...
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joe lieberman used to echo everything that john mccain says. but now he says this. >> she was under no political influence from the white house. >> stephanie: okay, all right. [ world news music ] >> to think she was almost our vice president. >> stephanie: she shouldn't have manipulateed the intelligence or stayed silence on bengahzi. republicans have a new line of attack. if it was unclear why say anything at all because then nobody would be screaming cover up then, would they. >> no. >> stephanie: yeah, the question is should they have been given information at all if you're only giving bad information should you be giving any information. they didn't know it was bad information at the time or they wouldn't wouldn't be giving it. to fault rice not only to be more critical of the assessment she was given. she should have psychically known it was wrong or not potentially revealing classified information. i'm sure they wouldn't have said anything if she would have revealed classified information. that would have been much better. what? during t
joe lieberman used to echo everything that john mccain says. but now he says this. >> she was under no political influence from the white house. >> stephanie: okay, all right. [ world news music ] >> to think she was almost our vice president. >> stephanie: she shouldn't have manipulateed the intelligence or stayed silence on bengahzi. republicans have a new line of attack. if it was unclear why say anything at all because then nobody would be screaming cover up then,...
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yesterday she sat down with senator mccain, gramm and ayat. senator mccain told reporters the information she gave the american people was incorrect, but a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video. it was not and there was compelling evidence that the time that was certainly not the case. the house transportation and infrastructure committee is holding at hearing on amtrak's restructuring plans. the committee will hear from the inspector general and amtrak's president and representative from the united transportation union live at 10:00 eastern on our companion network c-span. [applause] >> last night secretary of state condoleezza rice and chancellor of the new york city public schools joel kline had a somewhat on education reform in washington examining america's education system and the impact on national security. council on foreign relations moderates the discussion, about an hour. >> welcome to this evening, broadcast of morning joe. the energy in this room is a real testament to two things. one is how the education reform ha
yesterday she sat down with senator mccain, gramm and ayat. senator mccain told reporters the information she gave the american people was incorrect, but a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video. it was not and there was compelling evidence that the time that was certainly not the case. the house transportation and infrastructure committee is holding at hearing on amtrak's restructuring plans. the committee will hear from the inspector general and amtrak's president and...
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he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here. you have been involved in a major study, u.s. competitive project at harvard business school. engage thousands of people, thousands of voices, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders and come up with a eight point plan of things you are advocating. i have gone through and some of that makes a lot of sense to me. it would have made sense in the 1990s and the 1980s. what makes you think this is such a big deal now? >> i want to say we have had a chance to interact with the jobs council in the harvard business
he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation,...
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joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without better protection -- but again, those are separate questions. host: north carolina. republican. you are next. caller: i think this susan rice thing is a smokescreen. you have somebody that is an ambassador and rehearses talking points, and she does not question or analyze the information, whether it is true or not. the cia says they knew this was a terrorist attack within 24 hours, and days later she is voicing the same thing, as well as president obama. consequently, it looks like the whole problem goes about her. i am a retired captain in the navy. if you do not have leader
joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without...
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i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. i think she has been forthcoming in the disclosures that have taken place. it's the administration, even d.i. clapper, national intelligence director clapper, only a week or so ago that he finally acknowledged they had done the scrubbing of what was released as the talking points. >> roland martin here. now i'm confused. you just said we need to understand about security, why was it in place, but the problem is secretary clinton, that was her department. so that's why i'm confused. is it a question of who acknowledge acknowledged a terrorist tie or who was responsible for prudent security
i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist...
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where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well, certainly doesn't feel that they're willing lied to. >> bill: susan is calling us from rockford, illinois. hey, susan, good morning. >> caller: hi, susan rice didn't do a thing wrong. geraldo rivera admitted on his tv show, i watched it, he congratulated himself on coining the phrase benghazi gate -- >> of course he did. >> caller: and that's thousand all got started. it was a plan, i'm sure there was money involved. somebody got paid for making up the story. that woman didn't do a thing wrong. it was b.s. from the beginning. i think geraldo needs to serve community service for you know, i
where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well,...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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. >> senators graham and mccain are now more concerned than before they met with ambassador rice and are not willing still to consider her as secretary of state. >>> three mid-level managers at the garment factory that went up in flames in bangladesh are under arrest. they are accused of locking the main gate of the factory after the inferno broke out saturday. that fire killed more than 100 workers and injured more than 150 other people. several thousand people are mourning and protesting near that factory. >>> a deadly double car bombing in syria this morning. at least 29 people were killed in the blast that happened just outside the capital of damascus. a syrian human rights group says the death toll is expected to rise due to the number of people injured in the bombings. >>> also new this morning, an audit from afghanistan finds rampant corruption in the kabul bank. it is a depository for u.s. reconstruction dollars. "the new york times" report the audit concludes the bank is a ponzi scheme allowing those connected to president karzai access to hundreds of millions of dollars. >>
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capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> in a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the american people. but the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word "extremists" for al qaeda. remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. the question is, who did the editing? today, the senators say that acting director morell told them the fbi did. they say they later heard fr
capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other...
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there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling that may take place. interesting people are talking about defense secretary as though the job was open. leon panetta might want to stay longer. and john kerry has not said he would be interested in that job. some said he would take it, but others closer to him say that's not the case. and no job has been offered. so this is -- let's just put it awkward. if she is nominated and they it fight this through, who is going to chair that committee? and that's john kerry. >> it's not quite krem linology because it's america, but it's getting closer. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. great to have you here.
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. >> let's move on to another subject today which is the ongoing battle between john mccain and a few senators and ambassador susan rice. there is a view that it's all beginning to get a little too personal, a little too ugly. what is your opinion of it? >> well, listen, that's one of the things, national security, the decisions that have to be made in regard to the secretary of state, i'm going to leave that up to the leadership in our senate. >> it's good to see you again. i have actually missed you on the airways, reince priebus. welcome back. take care. >>> president obama is launching a full court press of bush era tax cuts are allowed to expire, it will cripple the economy. mr. kruger, welcome to you. >> thank you. >> is the president going to hold his nerve and increase taxes or is he going to be bullied off by the republicans to try and do a deal to avoid falling off the fiscal cliff? >> the president has been quite clear that he wants a balanced approach to our deficit problems, that he wants higher revenue raised from increasing taxes for the top 2%, the most fortunate ameri
. >> let's move on to another subject today which is the ongoing battle between john mccain and a few senators and ambassador susan rice. there is a view that it's all beginning to get a little too personal, a little too ugly. what is your opinion of it? >> well, listen, that's one of the things, national security, the decisions that have to be made in regard to the secretary of state, i'm going to leave that up to the leadership in our senate. >> it's good to see you again. i...
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it was great what mccain did. getting the heat. and republicans were being sexist. and let me give her a fair shake. john bolton was up for administration. they pulled the same stunt. >> dana: i think she was failed by people around her. president obama should be mad at him. rather than be mad at senators. is he not concerned they got it wrong? purposefully so? >> brian: this is what she said roughly. the talking point provideed by the intel community and were incorrect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. if this is your client. or somebody you work for. when this comes up, there are too many questions to know for sure. you could have walk around and hillped her beat the questions in two seconds. north dakota is easy to say that. this is the 15th of september. she was dealing with fresh intelligence information. the idea that john mccain and the guys, would grade bolton as an example why she shouldn't get in secretary of state -- >> dana: why? >> bob: i don't think he was up to the job at all. >> dana: they don't think she is up for the job. did you
it was great what mccain did. getting the heat. and republicans were being sexist. and let me give her a fair shake. john bolton was up for administration. they pulled the same stunt. >> dana: i think she was failed by people around her. president obama should be mad at him. rather than be mad at senators. is he not concerned they got it wrong? purposefully so? >> brian: this is what she said roughly. the talking point provideed by the intel community and were incorrect. there was...
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>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target? then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose, if i think that she wou
>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for...